Maximum Size of clip

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28 May, 2017 02:32 AM

Has anyone hit the limit of what can be pasted into Clip Manager 5?

I've got a 20 x 20 grid of popovers that I need to modify. Manually doing 400 is crazy. I had done a single row of 20, which translated into about 105,000 lines of code when I moved it over to BBEdit. It wasn't quick, but it worked.

I tried pasting the entire 20x20 grid in and Clip Manager wasn't too happy about that. Crashes.

  1. 1 Posted by david on 28 May, 2017 11:20 AM

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    I've worked with clips significantly larger than that (at least counting lines and not characters/memory size, which would be a better measure). I did a test just now with a layout clip that's 172,359 lines, and it worked just fine, though of course it's a bit slow.

    How much RAM does your computer have? What OS version and FileMaker version?
    I used FMPA15, macOS 10.12.5 with 16 GB RAM.

  2. 2 Posted by zakary on 05 Jun, 2017 05:17 PM

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    16 GB, 10.12.5. FileMaker Pro Advanced 16. Yes, slow. The search & replace in CM5 is glacial. I tend to use BBEdit which is amazingly fast in comparison.

    I ended up doing it one 1 of popovers at a time - 1 x 20 popovers. It was laborious but it worked. Each block was 100,505 lines. Also found that when copying back to FileMaker you have really wait for CM5 to finish its copy process.

    Dave Zakary

    > On May 28, 2017, at 7:20 AM, david <[email blocked]> wrote:
    >
    > // Please reply above this line
    > ==================================================
    >
    > From: david
    >
    > I've worked with clips significantly larger than that (at least counting lines and not characters/memory size, which would be a better measure). I did a test just now with a layout clip that's 172,359 lines, and it worked just fine, though of course it's a bit slow.
    >
    > How much RAM does your computer have? What OS version and FileMaker version?
    > I used FMPA15, macOS 10.12.5 with 16 GB RAM.
    >
    > On Sat, May 27 at 07:32 PM PDT, zakary wrote:
    >
    > Has anyone hit the limit of what can be pasted into Clip Manager 5?
    >
    > I've got a 20 x 20 grid of popovers that I need to modify. Manually doing 400 is crazy. I had done a single row of 20, which translated into about 105,000 lines of code when I moved it over to BBEdit. It wasn't quick, but it worked.
    >
    > I tried pasting the entire 20x20 grid in and Clip Manager wasn't too happy about that. Crashes.
    >
    > Having trouble reading this? View this discussion online: Maximum Size of clip <http://support.myfmbutler.com/discussions/clip-manager-5/1128-maximum-size-of-clip>.
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  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by koen on 06 Jun, 2017 10:49 AM

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    Hi,

    BBEdit (and Textwrangler) are the only software I know, that are capable to do text editing (with colour syntax) on very big files. Others such as Coda, Clip Manager, failing on this.

    With Clip Manager we are using a third party open source project for the XML editor. We have tweaked it to make it faster handling clips. Layout clips have been growing the last couple of FileMaker versions (because of the CSS). Main goal in the next release of Clip Manager 6, is to be 64-bit and do some operations to get it faster. But I can't promise anything ;)

    For more advanced editing, we indeed advise to use other text editors like BBEdit, which can be linked to Clip Manager ( See the preferences -> Editor Tab).

    Can you send me the crash log and the ClipManager 5 log (find in ~/Library/logs/ folder)?

    Best regards,

    Koen

  4. 4 Posted by zakary on 06 Jun, 2017 11:54 AM

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    > On Jun 6, 2017, at 6:49 AM, koen <[email blocked]> wrote:
    >
    > // Please reply above this line
    > ==================================================
    >
    > From: koen (Support staff)
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > BBEdit (and Textwrangler) are the only software I know, that are capable to do text editing (with colour syntax) on very big files. Others such as Coda, Clip Manager, failing on this.
    >
    > With Clip Manager we are using a third party open source project for the XML editor. We have tweaked it to make it faster handling clips. Layout clips have been growing the last couple of FileMaker versions (because of the CSS). Main goal in the next release of Clip Manager 6, is to be 64-bit and do some operations to get it faster. But I can't promise anything ;)
    >
    > For more advanced editing, we indeed advise to use other text editors like BBEdit, which can be linked to Clip Manager ( See the preferences -> Editor Tab).
    >
    > Can you send me the crash log and the ClipManager 5 log (find in ~/Library/logs/ folder)?
    >
    > Best regards,
    >
    > Koen
    >
    > On Mon, Jun 05 at 10:17 AM PDT, zakary wrote:
    >
    > 16 GB, 10.12.5. FileMaker Pro Advanced 16. Yes, slow. The search & replace in CM5 is glacial. I tend to use BBEdit which is amazingly fast in comparison.
    >
    > I ended up doing it one 1 of popovers at a time - 1 x 20 popovers. It was laborious but it worked. Each block was 100,505 lines. Also found that when copying back to FileMaker you have really wait for CM5 to finish its copy process.
    >
    > Dave Zakary
    >
    > > On May 28, 2017, at 7:20 AM, david <[email blocked] <mailto:[email blocked]>> wrote:
    > >
    > > // Please reply above this line
    > > ==================================================
    > >
    > > From: david
    > >
    > > I've worked with clips significantly larger than that (at least counting lines and not characters/memory size, which would be a better measure). I did a test just now with a layout clip that's 172,359 lines, and it worked just fine, though of course it's a bit slow.
    > >
    > > How much RAM does your computer have? What OS version and FileMaker version?
    > > I used FMPA15, macOS 10.12.5 with 16 GB RAM.
    > >
    > > On Sat, May 27 at 07:32 PM PDT, zakary wrote:
    > >
    > > Has anyone hit the limit of what can be pasted into Clip Manager 5?
    > >
    > > I've got a 20 x 20 grid of popovers that I need to modify. Manually doing 400 is crazy. I had done a single row of 20, which translated into about 105,000 lines of code when I moved it over to BBEdit. It wasn't quick, but it worked.
    > >
    > > I tried pasting the entire 20x20 grid in and Clip Manager wasn't too happy about that. Crashes.
    > >
    > > Having trouble reading this? View this discussion online: Maximum Size of clip <http://support.myfmbutler.com/discussions/clip-manager-5/1128-maximum-size-of-clip <http://support.myfmbutler.com/discussions/clip-manager-5/1128-maximum-size-of-clip>>.
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